Inprise -> CodeGear -> Embarcadero. I loved it for that too. still had to written in a text editor by the developer. In retrospect, I would have totally gone in a different direction. (TDE was released and then stopped when Borland was in its CodeGear incarnation some years ago.) Productivity in delphi for someone used to it matches any "modern" GUI development platform. Not only was that a convenience, it helped with learning the tool and Windows GUI programming too. It may be nostalgia, but I don't htink it's only nostalgia. The first time I tried it, I thought "Hmm, this is Pascal !". Well, they make them worse. Those languages have standard libraries with rather minimalist APIs, so I don't see the bloat there. It is primarily used to build applications for Windows systems but can be used to build applications for a variety of operating systems. Turbo Pascal and its descendants, including Delphi, support access to hardware and low-level programming, with the facility to incorporate code written in assembly language and other languages. It was an incredible effort. In my opinion Delphi is better than .Net as it's a native language but the RAD software is expensive and I like Visual Studio better. Not completely "visual programming" as you say, but I found it a fast and easy tool for making and tweaking the UI. I'm reminded of this rather amusing comment on a forum: "My colleague told me to abandon Delphi, it's obsolete, Silverlight is the future. The business people often want it too.). Delphi is the easiest platform by far to have legacy code on, because the maintenance cost is very low. Some things I have made in Delphi require a LOT of stirng manipulation, which I could have absolutly not have done without the TStrings data structure. My first experiences with Pascal started before Delphi. go from 1 to 2 phone numbers per customer) : 3) the RPC/REST/... interface to the second tier, 4) any and all frontend code interacting with this data. And dinners.) Could you elaborate? Maintained as necessary. The language and API however is updated and productive. Now I know. Amazing that you can still find it around these days, but most PeopleSoft customers have moved to Oracle, SAP or Workday by now. I recently attended a local symposium put on by the user group. But in an afternoon with VB6, I could bang out a good first prototype for SO many projects that in many cases, ended up being "good enough" that we never needed to go back and re-do it "properly" in VC6. I've written wildly inefficient code in Delphi. Does anyone use it? ... :-). I may be a biggot, since I tried Embarcadero but it smelled nasty since it was, at least for me, an utter mess. I heard high price also killed smalltalk. The closest thing I've found since then that allows me to do something similar minus the IDE is BlitzMax, but the IDE was what made the process so silky smooth in Delphi, and I miss it. I just make the layout, then program what each button does, etc.. And it was simple. About a million years ago I wrote the Delphi Container and Algorithm Library (DeCAL). > It's reality when compared against what it is designed to replace. That said, in the late 1990s/early 2000s, I was actually using Delphi for headless backend apps. Online material is mainly marketing, no useful blog posts, new frameworks, package managers.. Also, Delphi didn't have a completely "Visual Programming" paradigm, if you mean it in the sense of some of those experimental tools that claim that all programming can be done visually/graphically, simply by drawing diagrams, dragging and dropping components onto a window, connecting them visually, etc. Log In Sign Up. The Enterprise and Architect editions of RAD Studio currently include Aqua Data Studio and Ext JS.[33]. In a code base like the one I work with all the way back to Delphi 3, there are other legacy issues as well; such as the late arrival of TBytes, which meant that in olden days you had to handle binary data in strings. There are issues, that are not noted by the compiler (unlike the deprecated flag for old functions and the like). Yet, with Visual Basic, there was always this bloated feeling.. Experts respond to several rounds of questionnaires, and … And super fast. This has a ton of knock on effects for long term maintainability. Thanks for those recommendations, I'll check them out. Awesome ... appreciate your perspective. Nimrod is great. The closest thing I can compare it to is going from java/tomcat to rails; that feeling of getting, I tried building an app in MFC after programming in Delphi/Borland C++ Builder. I have periodically tried out more recent version of delphi or lazurus http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ and they don't seem to be nearly as elegant as the early versions. Delphi's compilers generate native code for Microsoft Windows, macOS, iOS, Android and Linux (x64).[4][5][6]. Debugging and editing was excellent. The IDE's integration of UI widgets and event-handling procedures was pretty slick too. This is the subreddit for ~~Borland~~ ~~Codegear~~ Embarcadero Delphi and related … Press J to jump to the feed. Out of nostalgia I checked out Lazarus and I'm glad it has a somewhat thriving community. It did a beautiful code/visual synchronization that. They can be resurrected if forgotten, and can be recorded (by increasingly better means) so that they won’t be overlooked. Since Borland Developer Studio 2006 there are functions to locate memory leaks. I kind of wonder how many devs still are working on Delphi and if they are not only just bugfixing... Their whole "there are only X paying customers left, therefore we need to charge $3000" stinks of someone who is preparing for failure, instead of growth. Lead to some bad habits though - e.g. Has anyone here used FPC for that? Borland tools were always great, but this was the era of mighty MS. C++ Builder made C++ on Windows so much more accessible than MS Visual Studio 4 + MFC at the time. You just need to get over Pascal-style syntax instead of C-style, and you are just as productive in it as if you were using C#. a grid widget could show the rows and fields of a table, live. MFC had so much Win32 cruft percolating out of everywhere! I've used various Delphi versions, a little, for personal projects [1], off on on, and liked it. The insanely high prices aren't helping either though. That's a compelling proposition. Yet, there are differences that may be decisive for their relative applicability for different problems. Many of my friends are surprised that I choose to use Delphi as my primary desktop technology, especially for Greenfield projects. E.g. So maybe that's why it lasted so long. Not quite the way I remembered it. The grandparent is a consultant, how many of this niche is hiring consultants? Kinda makes me feel old! The code editor features Code Insight (code completion), Error Insight (real-time error-checking), and refactoring. > Modern languages don't particularly encourage or discourage that style of programming. It supports native cross-compilation. Or do anything 'cool', like turn up and give a demo on how to implement reactive manifesto complaint software client/server with a few clicks / lines of code. I keep hoping some startup sees the huge arbitrage opportunity that is sitting there. I was happy. Yes, Delphi it was limited in some ways and the language was not the best, but is was (and in my opinion still is) the best way to easily create a "simple" standalone gui applications. Delphi was originally developed by Borland as a rapid application development tool for Windows as the successor of Turbo Pascal. Delphi supports rapid application development (RAD). Delphi compiles source code almost as fast as it can read it from disk. And then I found Delphi 6. The Delphi IDEs since Delphi 2005 increasingly support refactoring features such as method extraction and the possibility to create UML models from the source code or to modify the source through changes made in the model. Modern languages don't particularly encourage or discourage that style of programming. Yes, his leaving was bad for Delphi, though good for him financially. [1] http://kk.org/thetechnium/2006/02/immortal-techno/. One of my most frequently used Windows app is in Delphi. Only 300 of the projects compiled via Delphi Parallel Build with the other ~33 failing for various reason (they might not be Win32 apps or have other dependencies). Can you describe what things Xcode lacks that you miss from Delphi? I also tried few examples of C, but the code I had access to was in Pascal, and I didn't have the doc or internet, so I kept tweaking. Seems all the effort to make it cross platform (kylix) or match up with the .net component models cluttered up the early clarity of implementation. I used Delphi 5 for a long time. Borland Enterprise Studio for Windows supports Delphi. I keep trying to come up with an excuse to use it for a project. After the initial versions of Delphi, the Borland marketing team decided it was a bit confusing to have Delphi and Object Pascal as names, and decided to start referring to the language as Delphi as well. Pass the source code and rights over to use and we'll work out an arrangement to continue development whilst maintaining a royalty stream for you". Underneath it only needs x86 and win32 (unless you're building for mac, android or iOS, which it also supports). My move to Java was partly because I was straddling the Windows and Linux worlds, and Delphi couldn't cross that chasm with me at the time. On the web there just isn't any other way of doing things. I remember how you only had to dealt with pointers when you used Windows API. Mathematica had details and applications for each function, while Delphi/BP had a well written explanation of what the function would do and how to use it. So, this is probably why its still being used. As long as you were ignorant of the world outside of a PC and Windows, it was nirvana. Third-party libraries typically need updates from the vendor but, if source code is supplied, recompilation with the newer version may be sufficient. It needed not a lot of knowledge to make buttons and forms, etc. The integration of reporting components made generating nice paper printouts a snap too. I never liked C, because I already knew a few Turbo Pascal versions before getting to learn C. So the language was always meh for me, but then Borland blew it up with their schizophrenics moves and allowed C and C++ usage to grow in the PC world. Clang takes at least a minute or two even at -j40... Oberon-F on classic Mac OS was really productive, and I imagine its descendant, BlackBox Component Pascal on Windows is so as well: one of the great features was the ability to extend the IDE while running it: you could compile an extension and test it in seconds. Delphi has communities on the web, where also its employees actively participate. The VCL was an early adopter of dependency injection or inversion of control; it uses a re-usable component model, extensible by the developer. Delphi gets you pixel-perfect interfaces that work on a 486 with windows 95 right up to todays windows 8 (there is a version of delphi that would get you 3.1 support as well). In the beginning the site was sacred to Mother Earth and was guarded by the terrible serpent Python, who was later killed by Apollo. Just an amazing product. I found it so too. Since the code is native, performance is never a problem even with wildly inefficient code. Its power comes from the tight GUI design/language integration, the brilliance of which is still unmatched by tools like Interface Builer; but the language — even with features like generics — hasn't been able to keep up. Archived. Delphi was one of the greatest development environment ever created when you just "needed to get shit done". Borland Pascal 7 (running in MSDOS) had the best IDE I ever had. But it was just a narrow horizontal window with a text box in it, that showed the current time, updating every second, something like the LED digital clocks you see at railway stations or airports. This is due to so many banks/utilities/etc betting the farm on older Java. At least for boring internal enterprise apps within corporations, the new languages/platforms and especially modern program design paradigms with their multiple tiers & supporting libraries, multiple levels of indirection resulting in 30 level deep call stacks, etc results in productivity perhaps 1/4 of what you could achieve with a product like Delphi. Tables will automatically start showing it, forms will magically contain the new field. The Delphi products all ship with a run-time library (RTL) and a Visual Component Library (VCL), including most of its source code. Lack of built-in multicast delegates for event handlers. Torque Owner Gary Roberson CJW Enterprises #9. Strings can be concatenated by using the '+' operator, rather than using functions. I would not recommend VB as it takes almost the same work as C#. For most complex applications, a client based GUI is superior for power users, the portions of the app that need widespread distribution can be implemented with a web interface. It's funny how you can selectively remember the good aspects of a language and forget how much better life has become since you dumped it. I've worked on some projects of that type earlier. The compiler was lightning fast, and produced fast code. I feel like Delphi has made a recent exciting comeback to relevance. Of course, I don't use it as often as C++ and other languages, but I do believe that it is a most beautiful language, and I'm disappointed that it isn't used more often in the commercial world. Yes, I used the name Borland loosely. What is wrong with Qt? Contrary to widespread discussions of Delphi been used for legacy products, I have been fortunate to spend my entire career on new Delphi projects, inventing products and services over it’s 25 years of existence. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_Pascal Lazarus as being FPC + libraries is great, but the IDE is still really bad in my opinion. Yes I'm quite aware of the history but the fact that borland/embarcadero choses to call both delphi doesn't really change what I said though, every where besides the marketing of this IDE clearly considers object pascal [1] as the language (with several implementations/compilers), and delphi [2] as the IDE. I can't comment on the web capabilities of Delphi specifically, I'm thinking your standard boring enterprisey CRUD app with various calculations/business logic/reports, etc....thousands of new apps of these kind are written every year, nowadays typically with a web front end (regardless if that's really necessary, all things considered). Long story short, when MS turned the full weight of their organization on Borland and sunk them it opened my eyes to MS's corporate behaviour. A pity that the free Turbo Delphi Explorer version was discontinued. 13. Delphi can also generate standard DLLs, ActiveX DLLs, COM automation servers and Windows services. One of the great things about Delphi and its predecessor Object Pascal were, besides what other HNers have mentioned, was AOT compilation, being memory safe and allowing systems programming at the same time. The VCL framework maintains a high level of source compatibility between versions, which simplifies updating existing source code to a newer Delphi version. And then I discovered Visual Basic (in its DOS and Windows) and I was able to do buttons and forms and tigers.. Code is translated directly to native code per compilation unit, and since there is no "header file hell", each unit is an independent part whose generated code can be cached in its entirety, so during a single compile, if you have changed just one unit, the compiler only needs to compile that unit (plus dependencies) and then perform linking. 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I remember the same feeling with VB6/VC6. By the looks of it you're using the optimal solution to your problem. One of the advertisers in the symposium papers was a consultancy whose pitch basically was "so you've been making money from selling a product, but you're getting old and want to retire. I mostly do web development, but every once in a while I go back in to build a feature on the Delphi side of the fence. The frankenstein model of CSS/JavaScrip/HTML cannot provide the same RAD capabilites as native applications. I don't know, but it is an interesting question. Delphi is great for people that have been using it for ages, but with the current pricing, and no 'community' edition, it will not attract new developers. How do they improve the applications ? Delphi's contemporaries (classic VB, MFC) have all gone through major upheavals. The IDE was fast. When my brother who was in CS and was doing image processing (tumors, edge detection, etc), he did his project in Delphi and I'd hang around, and he'd ask me how to do this or that, since I started programming in it before he did, and it was so easy for him to implement stuff and build the application. Does anyone know more about PeopleCode and their PeopleSoft tools and IDE and how it compares? Everybody else seems to love it, even compared to Java. When it does not, the cause is usually a component which does not handle the 'before' and 'after' MonitorDpiChange events properly or at all. I use delphi 7 and its still great. For example, C++Builder 6 and later can combine source code from Delphi and C++ in one project, while packages compiled with C++Builder can be used from within Delphi. They never rewrote and I had happy clients for many years. Unlike managed environments such as .Net or Java, reusing well-known open source components is as simple as adding an assembly or a JAR to your project (yes, I acknowledge that in the past this has had its own challenges, but I think in the .Net world at least Nuget has largely conquered this). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gupta_Technologies, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBuilder. Even weirder is that in 2002 the Delphi community developed a python 2.7/3 type schism over UI changes and .NET inclusion and a large portion of the community refused to adopt new releases. But who knows what will happen, there have been so many changes of direction ... C++/CX + XAML is maybe the closest it gets nowadays. Embarcadero Delphi 10.4.1 Sydney Splash Screen. Since 2016, there have been new releases of Delphi every six months, with new platforms being added approximately every second release.[9]. I recall buying the Delphi IDE way back in the day; possibly when I was still at university, definitely when Borland was still around! I am affraid things are a bit vague. Scott Adams could make the same joke again. Let's be reasonable, he has a better chance learning MFC (not that that's a good idea either). However, with no GUI designer and GUI library it is maddening building anything large. It's free to sign up and bid on jobs. I loved it and I hope it sticks around. Delphi was designed by the same architect that later designed .NEt. We were still doing Perl and rudimentary PHP 3/MySQL 3 stuff. For example, I just started reading Coding in Delphi (. Delphi Prism is all about being a full featured .NET development language and "forward compatibility." It was a gamble on their part, but I can't say I'd have gone the other way. I had already programmed in BASIC as a child and it was great, for a kid like me who didn't have Internet access and named text files to .COM and .EXE in the hope they would do something, this was awesome. 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I loved it for that too. still had to written in a text editor by the developer. In retrospect, I would have totally gone in a different direction. (TDE was released and then stopped when Borland was in its CodeGear incarnation some years ago.) Productivity in delphi for someone used to it matches any "modern" GUI development platform. Not only was that a convenience, it helped with learning the tool and Windows GUI programming too. It may be nostalgia, but I don't htink it's only nostalgia. The first time I tried it, I thought "Hmm, this is Pascal !". Well, they make them worse. Those languages have standard libraries with rather minimalist APIs, so I don't see the bloat there. It is primarily used to build applications for Windows systems but can be used to build applications for a variety of operating systems. Turbo Pascal and its descendants, including Delphi, support access to hardware and low-level programming, with the facility to incorporate code written in assembly language and other languages. It was an incredible effort. In my opinion Delphi is better than .Net as it's a native language but the RAD software is expensive and I like Visual Studio better. Not completely "visual programming" as you say, but I found it a fast and easy tool for making and tweaking the UI. I'm reminded of this rather amusing comment on a forum: "My colleague told me to abandon Delphi, it's obsolete, Silverlight is the future. The business people often want it too.). Delphi is the easiest platform by far to have legacy code on, because the maintenance cost is very low. Some things I have made in Delphi require a LOT of stirng manipulation, which I could have absolutly not have done without the TStrings data structure. My first experiences with Pascal started before Delphi. go from 1 to 2 phone numbers per customer) : 3) the RPC/REST/... interface to the second tier, 4) any and all frontend code interacting with this data. And dinners.) Could you elaborate? Maintained as necessary. The language and API however is updated and productive. Now I know. Amazing that you can still find it around these days, but most PeopleSoft customers have moved to Oracle, SAP or Workday by now. I recently attended a local symposium put on by the user group. But in an afternoon with VB6, I could bang out a good first prototype for SO many projects that in many cases, ended up being "good enough" that we never needed to go back and re-do it "properly" in VC6. I've written wildly inefficient code in Delphi. Does anyone use it? ... :-). I may be a biggot, since I tried Embarcadero but it smelled nasty since it was, at least for me, an utter mess. I heard high price also killed smalltalk. The closest thing I've found since then that allows me to do something similar minus the IDE is BlitzMax, but the IDE was what made the process so silky smooth in Delphi, and I miss it. I just make the layout, then program what each button does, etc.. And it was simple. About a million years ago I wrote the Delphi Container and Algorithm Library (DeCAL). > It's reality when compared against what it is designed to replace. That said, in the late 1990s/early 2000s, I was actually using Delphi for headless backend apps. Online material is mainly marketing, no useful blog posts, new frameworks, package managers.. Also, Delphi didn't have a completely "Visual Programming" paradigm, if you mean it in the sense of some of those experimental tools that claim that all programming can be done visually/graphically, simply by drawing diagrams, dragging and dropping components onto a window, connecting them visually, etc. Log In Sign Up. The Enterprise and Architect editions of RAD Studio currently include Aqua Data Studio and Ext JS.[33]. In a code base like the one I work with all the way back to Delphi 3, there are other legacy issues as well; such as the late arrival of TBytes, which meant that in olden days you had to handle binary data in strings. There are issues, that are not noted by the compiler (unlike the deprecated flag for old functions and the like). Yet, with Visual Basic, there was always this bloated feeling.. Experts respond to several rounds of questionnaires, and … And super fast. This has a ton of knock on effects for long term maintainability. Thanks for those recommendations, I'll check them out. Awesome ... appreciate your perspective. Nimrod is great. The closest thing I can compare it to is going from java/tomcat to rails; that feeling of getting, I tried building an app in MFC after programming in Delphi/Borland C++ Builder. I have periodically tried out more recent version of delphi or lazurus http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ and they don't seem to be nearly as elegant as the early versions. Delphi's compilers generate native code for Microsoft Windows, macOS, iOS, Android and Linux (x64).[4][5][6]. Debugging and editing was excellent. The IDE's integration of UI widgets and event-handling procedures was pretty slick too. This is the subreddit for ~~Borland~~ ~~Codegear~~ Embarcadero Delphi and related … Press J to jump to the feed. Out of nostalgia I checked out Lazarus and I'm glad it has a somewhat thriving community. It did a beautiful code/visual synchronization that. They can be resurrected if forgotten, and can be recorded (by increasingly better means) so that they won’t be overlooked. Since Borland Developer Studio 2006 there are functions to locate memory leaks. I kind of wonder how many devs still are working on Delphi and if they are not only just bugfixing... Their whole "there are only X paying customers left, therefore we need to charge $3000" stinks of someone who is preparing for failure, instead of growth. Lead to some bad habits though - e.g. Has anyone here used FPC for that? Borland tools were always great, but this was the era of mighty MS. C++ Builder made C++ on Windows so much more accessible than MS Visual Studio 4 + MFC at the time. You just need to get over Pascal-style syntax instead of C-style, and you are just as productive in it as if you were using C#. a grid widget could show the rows and fields of a table, live. MFC had so much Win32 cruft percolating out of everywhere! I've used various Delphi versions, a little, for personal projects [1], off on on, and liked it. The insanely high prices aren't helping either though. That's a compelling proposition. Yet, there are differences that may be decisive for their relative applicability for different problems. Many of my friends are surprised that I choose to use Delphi as my primary desktop technology, especially for Greenfield projects. E.g. So maybe that's why it lasted so long. Not quite the way I remembered it. The grandparent is a consultant, how many of this niche is hiring consultants? Kinda makes me feel old! The code editor features Code Insight (code completion), Error Insight (real-time error-checking), and refactoring. > Modern languages don't particularly encourage or discourage that style of programming. It supports native cross-compilation. Or do anything 'cool', like turn up and give a demo on how to implement reactive manifesto complaint software client/server with a few clicks / lines of code. I keep hoping some startup sees the huge arbitrage opportunity that is sitting there. I was happy. Yes, Delphi it was limited in some ways and the language was not the best, but is was (and in my opinion still is) the best way to easily create a "simple" standalone gui applications. Delphi was originally developed by Borland as a rapid application development tool for Windows as the successor of Turbo Pascal. Delphi supports rapid application development (RAD). Delphi compiles source code almost as fast as it can read it from disk. And then I found Delphi 6. The Delphi IDEs since Delphi 2005 increasingly support refactoring features such as method extraction and the possibility to create UML models from the source code or to modify the source through changes made in the model. Modern languages don't particularly encourage or discourage that style of programming. Yes, his leaving was bad for Delphi, though good for him financially. [1] http://kk.org/thetechnium/2006/02/immortal-techno/. One of my most frequently used Windows app is in Delphi. Only 300 of the projects compiled via Delphi Parallel Build with the other ~33 failing for various reason (they might not be Win32 apps or have other dependencies). Can you describe what things Xcode lacks that you miss from Delphi? I also tried few examples of C, but the code I had access to was in Pascal, and I didn't have the doc or internet, so I kept tweaking. Seems all the effort to make it cross platform (kylix) or match up with the .net component models cluttered up the early clarity of implementation. I used Delphi 5 for a long time. Borland Enterprise Studio for Windows supports Delphi. I keep trying to come up with an excuse to use it for a project. After the initial versions of Delphi, the Borland marketing team decided it was a bit confusing to have Delphi and Object Pascal as names, and decided to start referring to the language as Delphi as well. Pass the source code and rights over to use and we'll work out an arrangement to continue development whilst maintaining a royalty stream for you". Underneath it only needs x86 and win32 (unless you're building for mac, android or iOS, which it also supports). My move to Java was partly because I was straddling the Windows and Linux worlds, and Delphi couldn't cross that chasm with me at the time. On the web there just isn't any other way of doing things. I remember how you only had to dealt with pointers when you used Windows API. Mathematica had details and applications for each function, while Delphi/BP had a well written explanation of what the function would do and how to use it. So, this is probably why its still being used. As long as you were ignorant of the world outside of a PC and Windows, it was nirvana. Third-party libraries typically need updates from the vendor but, if source code is supplied, recompilation with the newer version may be sufficient. It needed not a lot of knowledge to make buttons and forms, etc. The integration of reporting components made generating nice paper printouts a snap too. I never liked C, because I already knew a few Turbo Pascal versions before getting to learn C. So the language was always meh for me, but then Borland blew it up with their schizophrenics moves and allowed C and C++ usage to grow in the PC world. Clang takes at least a minute or two even at -j40... Oberon-F on classic Mac OS was really productive, and I imagine its descendant, BlackBox Component Pascal on Windows is so as well: one of the great features was the ability to extend the IDE while running it: you could compile an extension and test it in seconds. Delphi has communities on the web, where also its employees actively participate. The VCL was an early adopter of dependency injection or inversion of control; it uses a re-usable component model, extensible by the developer. Delphi gets you pixel-perfect interfaces that work on a 486 with windows 95 right up to todays windows 8 (there is a version of delphi that would get you 3.1 support as well). In the beginning the site was sacred to Mother Earth and was guarded by the terrible serpent Python, who was later killed by Apollo. Just an amazing product. I found it so too. Since the code is native, performance is never a problem even with wildly inefficient code. Its power comes from the tight GUI design/language integration, the brilliance of which is still unmatched by tools like Interface Builer; but the language — even with features like generics — hasn't been able to keep up. Archived. Delphi was one of the greatest development environment ever created when you just "needed to get shit done". Borland Pascal 7 (running in MSDOS) had the best IDE I ever had. But it was just a narrow horizontal window with a text box in it, that showed the current time, updating every second, something like the LED digital clocks you see at railway stations or airports. This is due to so many banks/utilities/etc betting the farm on older Java. At least for boring internal enterprise apps within corporations, the new languages/platforms and especially modern program design paradigms with their multiple tiers & supporting libraries, multiple levels of indirection resulting in 30 level deep call stacks, etc results in productivity perhaps 1/4 of what you could achieve with a product like Delphi. Tables will automatically start showing it, forms will magically contain the new field. The Delphi products all ship with a run-time library (RTL) and a Visual Component Library (VCL), including most of its source code. Lack of built-in multicast delegates for event handlers. Torque Owner Gary Roberson CJW Enterprises #9. Strings can be concatenated by using the '+' operator, rather than using functions. I would not recommend VB as it takes almost the same work as C#. For most complex applications, a client based GUI is superior for power users, the portions of the app that need widespread distribution can be implemented with a web interface. It's funny how you can selectively remember the good aspects of a language and forget how much better life has become since you dumped it. I've worked on some projects of that type earlier. The compiler was lightning fast, and produced fast code. I feel like Delphi has made a recent exciting comeback to relevance. Of course, I don't use it as often as C++ and other languages, but I do believe that it is a most beautiful language, and I'm disappointed that it isn't used more often in the commercial world. Yes, I used the name Borland loosely. What is wrong with Qt? Contrary to widespread discussions of Delphi been used for legacy products, I have been fortunate to spend my entire career on new Delphi projects, inventing products and services over it’s 25 years of existence. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_Pascal Lazarus as being FPC + libraries is great, but the IDE is still really bad in my opinion. Yes I'm quite aware of the history but the fact that borland/embarcadero choses to call both delphi doesn't really change what I said though, every where besides the marketing of this IDE clearly considers object pascal [1] as the language (with several implementations/compilers), and delphi [2] as the IDE. I can't comment on the web capabilities of Delphi specifically, I'm thinking your standard boring enterprisey CRUD app with various calculations/business logic/reports, etc....thousands of new apps of these kind are written every year, nowadays typically with a web front end (regardless if that's really necessary, all things considered). Long story short, when MS turned the full weight of their organization on Borland and sunk them it opened my eyes to MS's corporate behaviour. A pity that the free Turbo Delphi Explorer version was discontinued. 13. Delphi can also generate standard DLLs, ActiveX DLLs, COM automation servers and Windows services. One of the great things about Delphi and its predecessor Object Pascal were, besides what other HNers have mentioned, was AOT compilation, being memory safe and allowing systems programming at the same time. The VCL framework maintains a high level of source compatibility between versions, which simplifies updating existing source code to a newer Delphi version. And then I discovered Visual Basic (in its DOS and Windows) and I was able to do buttons and forms and tigers.. Code is translated directly to native code per compilation unit, and since there is no "header file hell", each unit is an independent part whose generated code can be cached in its entirety, so during a single compile, if you have changed just one unit, the compiler only needs to compile that unit (plus dependencies) and then perform linking. 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